Post by Seether on Sept 6, 2006 13:08:46 GMT -5
Hey Dobster!
NOTE: I have made a few suggestions based on a very good league in PA. I have attached the entire set of rules for that league, but I am not propsing that we adopt them whole-cloth. I have offered excerpts to support my ideas.
First, thanks for all of your work with this wonderful league! And. I am avaialable to help out in any way you need.
Nest, BIG YES to staying in the league! This is my MAIN and favorite league and I have been taking the long-haul approach this year with the roster that I inherited. If the core of young stars (?) I should move up to top tier next year, if I don't totally blow the draft. I should have some $$$ to spend in the draft too.
About those questions:
1. Trading/Waiver period 1 Day. I adjusted that one very early on to be 1 day….everyone agree with that?
YES
2. Scoring....everyone still OK with standard 5x5 Roto? I am. YES
3. Roster spots….any adjustment needed? I seem to remember talk of adding DL spots, finding out how to actually “use” those minors or injured spots and have them count towards our roster spots (which they don’t do currently, remember the illegal rosters early in the season?)
BIG YES! A minors roster of 10-12 would be great. We could have a draft after the one with CBS. Meet in a chat room or whatever. Or, we could submit a list of wants to (you?) and let you roll the dice for order and assign according to pref list order.
FARM TEAM Rotation Draft
At the conclusion of the Auction, owners will successively draft up to 15 additional players in 15 separate rounds of selection. Initially, players acquired in this fashion comprise a team’s FARM roster.
a. Any baseball player who has never played on a Major League Baseball team is eligible for this draft. Owners are not required to select players by position. They may select all pitchers, all position players, or a mix.
b. The order of selection for the rotation draft will be determined by the order of finish in the previous season. The team that finished in fourth place will select first, the first place team second and so on with the order reversed every other round. (In the event of expansion, new teams will draw lots for the middle and final positions in the draft.
Having a minor roster adds to excitement of discovering new "stars" and allows more flex in trading too.
DL expanded to 2-3 suits me fine.
4. Keepers. We designated 8 to be the number, and any attached salary from what you bid/trade salary for. Any reason to look at changing this number?
In other leagues in the past I have found that 10 was the best number.
Here is some ideas from another league:
18 – ROSTER PROTECTION
Each team may retain from one season to the next a maximum of 10 players from its active roster.
a. The names of players being retained must be recorded with the Commissioner before 8:45 p.m. March 5. Specific notice must also be made at that time of any guaranteed long-term contract signings and FARM system carryover.
b. The cumulative salaries of players protected prior to Auction Draft Day are deducted from a team’s $ expenditure limit. The balance is available for acquisition of the remaining players needed to complete the team’s active roster.
c. In addition to players from the active roster, each team may retain up to five (10) MINOR players. These players must meet the criteria set forth in . Since MINOR players will have no salary until they are activated, MINOR carryovers will not enact any deduction from a team’s $ expenditure limit.
d. The Commissioner will promptly notify all teams in the league of each team’s protected roster, including player salaries, contract status, and amount available to spend on Auction Draft Day.
e. Failure to file notice of a guaranteed long-term contract for a player coming off his Option year will result in his being continued for one final season at this prior year’s salary then being released back into the free agent pool. Failure to renew a MINOR system player’s minor league contract will result in his becoming available to all other teams in the subsequent minor league draft.
5. Keeper value. Next year will be the SAME value the player was won for this year, if he’s on your team or traded. Any player not “purchased” in the original auction would be $1. But, I’ve been thinking about this for some time, what about the guys that were auction purchased, but then released. Eric Gagne from my team is an example. He cost me $15 at auction, and I recently cut ties with him. If someone is bold enough to pick him up, should he cost that GM $15 if he wants to keep him for next year, or $1 since he became a free agent? That’s the only gray area I came up with. Related to that, I’m beginning to try and come up with a formula for what these guys should have for values for 2008 season…something related to Fair Market Value is what we were discussing before the season began.
Free agents are a decision to drop someone and I suppose "dropper beware"?
That, at least would keep the value close to MLB values.Forumulas are tough to do. Here is a policy from a former league:
7 – Player Salaries
The salary of a player is determined by the time and means of his acquisition and does not change unless the player becomes a free agent or is signed to a guaranteed long-term contract. (See Article 17.)
a. The salary acquired during the major league draft is his auction price.
b. The salary of a player called up from the free agent pool during the season is his free agent acquisition price.
c. The salary of a player acquired in the rotation draft is determined as follows. If a player was selected in the first round, $7; rounds 2-6, $5; rounds 7-10, $2; rounds 11-15, $1.
d. The salary of a player from a team’s previous year FARM roster, activated during the season is $2.
e. The salary of a player claimed on waivers is $10 or his current salary whichever is greater.
OR, we peg our salaries to some established database.
For example, CDM has been pretty accurate on establishing salary levels over the years.
6. Keeper deadline/Draft Date for 2007. Not as important right now, but just something to think about. I prefer to be doing things in late Feb/early March so we can see a little of that spring training information coming out, magazines are on the shelves, etc, but that's me. The old commish wanted to set keepers on January 5th, if I’m not mistaken.
Cool to wait.
7. Minor league guys. Anything special we’d like to do with these, maybe a different roster spot in terms of keeper status (guys that didn’t play any big league innings in 2006, guys not in the CBS database, etc….)
Separate roster and you can keep up to full roster. Once you move the guy to your active roster, or he is loses his ROOKIE status in MLB, he is no longer elegible for your Minor roster.
THE MINOR SYSTEM
To be eligible as a MINOR player, a player can never have been on the retaining team’s active fantasy roster (even if only during the auction portion of the Auction Draft) and the player must still qualify as a rookie according to the Major League definition. (Position Players – 130 or fewer Major League at bats. Pitchers – 50 or fewer Major League innings.)
a. Players meeting other eligibility requirements qualify for MINOR designation at 12:01 a.m. on the day following the regular season of their initial selection.
b. Once activated by a FBL League team, a player may not be placed in, or returned to, that team’s MINOR system. If his rights can be traded to another team, the team acquiring the player may place him in its MINOR system, so long as the player meets all other MINOR eligibility requirements.
c. A MINOR system player not brought up to a team’s 25-man roster during the season of his initial selection may be kept within the MINOR system in subsequent seasons upon a fee payment of $3 per player, per year; so long as he meets the FBL League MINOR system requirements and the Commissioner is notified on March 1 each year when rosters are frozen.
d. The salary of qualifying MINOR players will be determined
e. MINOR players cannot be picked up and added to a team’s 40-man roster from the conclusion of the regular season until the following year’s Rotation Draft.
8. Any other rules or scoring details are fully negotiable as well. I didn’t create most of them, so I won’t be offended if we change any part of it. This is as much your league as mine, I just run it. Let Democracy Speak! Feel free to send suggestions to me directly, post them on the CBS message board, or email out to the entire league, it doesn’t matter to me.
About trades:
TRADES
From the completion of the previous season until 11:59 p.m. on August 10, League teams are free (and encouraged) to make trades of any kind without limit, except as stipulated below, so long as the active rosters of both teams involved in a trade reflect the required position distribution upon completion of the transaction. No trades are permitted from August 11 until the end of the regular baseball season. Trades made from the end of the season through the beginning of the following season’s Auction are not bound by the position distribution requirement.
a. Trades do not affect the salary or contract status of players.
b. Off-season trades are subject to leaue review.
c. No trade can include “players to be named later” or “future considerations.”
d. Trades may include all tangible commodities held by a team. This includes active and reserve players, FARM players, selection rights in the Rotation Draft and draft dollars.
If it is possible, I suggest we add a defensive category. Your team's combined fielding PCT.
This adds a realistic dimension to the game.
Hope this is helpful.
PLMK your thoughts...
Doc
NOTE: I have made a few suggestions based on a very good league in PA. I have attached the entire set of rules for that league, but I am not propsing that we adopt them whole-cloth. I have offered excerpts to support my ideas.
First, thanks for all of your work with this wonderful league! And. I am avaialable to help out in any way you need.
Nest, BIG YES to staying in the league! This is my MAIN and favorite league and I have been taking the long-haul approach this year with the roster that I inherited. If the core of young stars (?) I should move up to top tier next year, if I don't totally blow the draft. I should have some $$$ to spend in the draft too.
About those questions:
1. Trading/Waiver period 1 Day. I adjusted that one very early on to be 1 day….everyone agree with that?
YES
2. Scoring....everyone still OK with standard 5x5 Roto? I am. YES
3. Roster spots….any adjustment needed? I seem to remember talk of adding DL spots, finding out how to actually “use” those minors or injured spots and have them count towards our roster spots (which they don’t do currently, remember the illegal rosters early in the season?)
BIG YES! A minors roster of 10-12 would be great. We could have a draft after the one with CBS. Meet in a chat room or whatever. Or, we could submit a list of wants to (you?) and let you roll the dice for order and assign according to pref list order.
FARM TEAM Rotation Draft
At the conclusion of the Auction, owners will successively draft up to 15 additional players in 15 separate rounds of selection. Initially, players acquired in this fashion comprise a team’s FARM roster.
a. Any baseball player who has never played on a Major League Baseball team is eligible for this draft. Owners are not required to select players by position. They may select all pitchers, all position players, or a mix.
b. The order of selection for the rotation draft will be determined by the order of finish in the previous season. The team that finished in fourth place will select first, the first place team second and so on with the order reversed every other round. (In the event of expansion, new teams will draw lots for the middle and final positions in the draft.
Having a minor roster adds to excitement of discovering new "stars" and allows more flex in trading too.
DL expanded to 2-3 suits me fine.
4. Keepers. We designated 8 to be the number, and any attached salary from what you bid/trade salary for. Any reason to look at changing this number?
In other leagues in the past I have found that 10 was the best number.
Here is some ideas from another league:
18 – ROSTER PROTECTION
Each team may retain from one season to the next a maximum of 10 players from its active roster.
a. The names of players being retained must be recorded with the Commissioner before 8:45 p.m. March 5. Specific notice must also be made at that time of any guaranteed long-term contract signings and FARM system carryover.
b. The cumulative salaries of players protected prior to Auction Draft Day are deducted from a team’s $ expenditure limit. The balance is available for acquisition of the remaining players needed to complete the team’s active roster.
c. In addition to players from the active roster, each team may retain up to five (10) MINOR players. These players must meet the criteria set forth in . Since MINOR players will have no salary until they are activated, MINOR carryovers will not enact any deduction from a team’s $ expenditure limit.
d. The Commissioner will promptly notify all teams in the league of each team’s protected roster, including player salaries, contract status, and amount available to spend on Auction Draft Day.
e. Failure to file notice of a guaranteed long-term contract for a player coming off his Option year will result in his being continued for one final season at this prior year’s salary then being released back into the free agent pool. Failure to renew a MINOR system player’s minor league contract will result in his becoming available to all other teams in the subsequent minor league draft.
5. Keeper value. Next year will be the SAME value the player was won for this year, if he’s on your team or traded. Any player not “purchased” in the original auction would be $1. But, I’ve been thinking about this for some time, what about the guys that were auction purchased, but then released. Eric Gagne from my team is an example. He cost me $15 at auction, and I recently cut ties with him. If someone is bold enough to pick him up, should he cost that GM $15 if he wants to keep him for next year, or $1 since he became a free agent? That’s the only gray area I came up with. Related to that, I’m beginning to try and come up with a formula for what these guys should have for values for 2008 season…something related to Fair Market Value is what we were discussing before the season began.
Free agents are a decision to drop someone and I suppose "dropper beware"?
That, at least would keep the value close to MLB values.Forumulas are tough to do. Here is a policy from a former league:
7 – Player Salaries
The salary of a player is determined by the time and means of his acquisition and does not change unless the player becomes a free agent or is signed to a guaranteed long-term contract. (See Article 17.)
a. The salary acquired during the major league draft is his auction price.
b. The salary of a player called up from the free agent pool during the season is his free agent acquisition price.
c. The salary of a player acquired in the rotation draft is determined as follows. If a player was selected in the first round, $7; rounds 2-6, $5; rounds 7-10, $2; rounds 11-15, $1.
d. The salary of a player from a team’s previous year FARM roster, activated during the season is $2.
e. The salary of a player claimed on waivers is $10 or his current salary whichever is greater.
OR, we peg our salaries to some established database.
For example, CDM has been pretty accurate on establishing salary levels over the years.
6. Keeper deadline/Draft Date for 2007. Not as important right now, but just something to think about. I prefer to be doing things in late Feb/early March so we can see a little of that spring training information coming out, magazines are on the shelves, etc, but that's me. The old commish wanted to set keepers on January 5th, if I’m not mistaken.
Cool to wait.
7. Minor league guys. Anything special we’d like to do with these, maybe a different roster spot in terms of keeper status (guys that didn’t play any big league innings in 2006, guys not in the CBS database, etc….)
Separate roster and you can keep up to full roster. Once you move the guy to your active roster, or he is loses his ROOKIE status in MLB, he is no longer elegible for your Minor roster.
THE MINOR SYSTEM
To be eligible as a MINOR player, a player can never have been on the retaining team’s active fantasy roster (even if only during the auction portion of the Auction Draft) and the player must still qualify as a rookie according to the Major League definition. (Position Players – 130 or fewer Major League at bats. Pitchers – 50 or fewer Major League innings.)
a. Players meeting other eligibility requirements qualify for MINOR designation at 12:01 a.m. on the day following the regular season of their initial selection.
b. Once activated by a FBL League team, a player may not be placed in, or returned to, that team’s MINOR system. If his rights can be traded to another team, the team acquiring the player may place him in its MINOR system, so long as the player meets all other MINOR eligibility requirements.
c. A MINOR system player not brought up to a team’s 25-man roster during the season of his initial selection may be kept within the MINOR system in subsequent seasons upon a fee payment of $3 per player, per year; so long as he meets the FBL League MINOR system requirements and the Commissioner is notified on March 1 each year when rosters are frozen.
d. The salary of qualifying MINOR players will be determined
e. MINOR players cannot be picked up and added to a team’s 40-man roster from the conclusion of the regular season until the following year’s Rotation Draft.
8. Any other rules or scoring details are fully negotiable as well. I didn’t create most of them, so I won’t be offended if we change any part of it. This is as much your league as mine, I just run it. Let Democracy Speak! Feel free to send suggestions to me directly, post them on the CBS message board, or email out to the entire league, it doesn’t matter to me.
About trades:
TRADES
From the completion of the previous season until 11:59 p.m. on August 10, League teams are free (and encouraged) to make trades of any kind without limit, except as stipulated below, so long as the active rosters of both teams involved in a trade reflect the required position distribution upon completion of the transaction. No trades are permitted from August 11 until the end of the regular baseball season. Trades made from the end of the season through the beginning of the following season’s Auction are not bound by the position distribution requirement.
a. Trades do not affect the salary or contract status of players.
b. Off-season trades are subject to leaue review.
c. No trade can include “players to be named later” or “future considerations.”
d. Trades may include all tangible commodities held by a team. This includes active and reserve players, FARM players, selection rights in the Rotation Draft and draft dollars.
If it is possible, I suggest we add a defensive category. Your team's combined fielding PCT.
This adds a realistic dimension to the game.
Hope this is helpful.
PLMK your thoughts...
Doc